The below only takes into account the surgical training/faculty/ residents and not necessarily the town. My rank list was very different because of person reasons (I'm married :o) and the only program I didn't rank was St. Louis U. All the other programs I thoughts would provide adequate surgical training.
Top: Indiana U Michigan U Minnesota Toledo Case Western U Florida U Wisconsin
Middle: Henry Ford William Beaumont U OF IL In Chicago
Bottom: Southern IL Medical College of WI St. Louis Ohio State U Wayne State
1 Baylor-i just felt welcome there and i really wanted a research year (great research facility). tim boone seemed like the salt of the earth. houston is easy to live in. 2 Cleveland Clinic-ridiculous volume, super friendly residents, great research facility, multiple faculty in every urologic discipline. at the time Novick was going to head the glickman institute and no one had been selected for the GU chair. campbell's another salt of the earth guy. awesome residents. 3 WashU St Louis-ridiculous volume, multiple faculty in most disciplines, awesome city, and my wife's family lives there. residents were awesome at the interview. dont let bhayani scare you in the interview. 4 Michigan-i had kind of a weird interview and the chairman was a a little kooky, but the word on this program was that it is awesome 5 rochester-indy without the sports teams, good program with alot of robotics 6 case western-i felt like this was an up and coming program and i really liked the young faculty alot. their chairman had unfortunately passed away so things were a little up in the air, but i felt very strongly that the place was going to get even better. 6 year program without much opportunity for research. 7 ford-very slick, super duper robot heavy, which is cool but not cool. however, the graduates from that program were getting awesome academic gigs, which i am looking for. 8. BWH-harvard name, cool residents but not my style. One of the interviewing faculty actually said "this place isnt malignant enough." 000. Didnt rank hopkins and i was actually sad about this. Going into the season, i wanted to go here so bad. i read all the faculty's papers while i was doing my research and they are really great scientists. But the residents felt like a mix of robots and faculty lap dogs and all but one was totally stiff. The research resident that took us around on interview day was not someone i would want to work with. I felt like the residents didnt operate independently very much and it was only going to get worse when they went to a 5 year program with no superchief. this was more or less confirmed by one of the IU faculty.
There were very few programs I felt I would NOT be happy at for residency when I interviewed. My top programs took into account operative volume, perceived resident happiness, and location. The programs I felt would be a best "fit" for me were IU, Kentucky, Kansas, Mayo, Wisconsin. I was impressed with Baylor and UPenn, but personally did not want to live in a large city due to hassles with commuting. Programs I was surprised at included UConn, South Carolina, and Oklahoma. All seemed to be great programs and good fit with residents. Making a rank list was a very hard process and I spent several weeks looking at what each program had to offer. The best advice I could offer is to go into interviews without preconceived notions and try to get a good feel for the residents, such as if they seemed interested in speaking with you. Programs change year-to-year so a bad program may be great by the time you apply
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Bottom:
Utah—location is great, 45 minutes from skiing. People are nice.
Middle:
Emory—variety (VA, county hospital, university hospital, 2 children’s hospitals); not malignant
Top:
Duke—well rounded program; good operative volume and good research. Top-heavy
Indiana—well respected; better open surgical experience than most programs in the country
Mayo—busy operative experience, good ancillary support, preceptor system of resident mentoring is ideal for learning and continuity of care
The below only takes into account the surgical training/faculty/ residents and not necessarily the town. My rank list was very different because of person reasons (I'm married :o) and the only program I didn't rank was St. Louis U. All the other programs I thoughts would provide adequate surgical training.
Top:
Indiana
U Michigan
U Minnesota
Toledo
Case Western
U Florida
U Wisconsin
Middle:
Henry Ford
William Beaumont
U OF IL In Chicago
Bottom:
Southern IL
Medical College of WI
St. Louis
Ohio State U
Wayne State
1 Baylor-i just felt welcome there and i really wanted a research year (great research facility). tim boone seemed like the salt of the earth. houston is easy to live in.
2 Cleveland Clinic-ridiculous volume, super friendly residents, great research facility, multiple faculty in every urologic discipline. at the time Novick was going to head the glickman institute and no one had been selected for the GU chair. campbell's another salt of the earth guy. awesome residents.
3 WashU St Louis-ridiculous volume, multiple faculty in most disciplines, awesome city, and my wife's family lives there. residents were awesome at the interview. dont let bhayani scare you in the interview.
4 Michigan-i had kind of a weird interview and the chairman was a a little kooky, but the word on this program was that it is awesome
5 rochester-indy without the sports teams, good program with alot of robotics
6 case western-i felt like this was an up and coming program and i really liked the young faculty alot. their chairman had unfortunately passed away so things were a little up in the air, but i felt very strongly that the place was going to get even better. 6 year program without much opportunity for research.
7 ford-very slick, super duper robot heavy, which is cool but not cool. however, the graduates from that program were getting awesome academic gigs, which i am looking for.
8. BWH-harvard name, cool residents but not my style. One of the interviewing faculty actually said "this place isnt malignant enough."
000. Didnt rank hopkins and i was actually sad about this. Going into the season, i wanted to go here so bad. i read all the faculty's papers while i was doing my research and they are really great scientists. But the residents felt like a mix of robots and faculty lap dogs and all but one was totally stiff. The research resident that took us around on interview day was not someone i would want to work with. I felt like the residents didnt operate independently very much and it was only going to get worse when they went to a 5 year program with no superchief. this was more or less confirmed by one of the IU faculty.
There were very few programs I felt I would NOT be happy at for residency when I interviewed. My top programs took into account operative volume, perceived resident happiness, and location. The programs I felt would be a best "fit" for me were IU, Kentucky, Kansas, Mayo, Wisconsin. I was impressed with Baylor and UPenn, but personally did not want to live in a large city due to hassles with commuting. Programs I was surprised at included UConn, South Carolina, and Oklahoma. All seemed to be great programs and good fit with residents. Making a rank list was a very hard process and I spent several weeks looking at what each program had to offer. The best advice I could offer is to go into interviews without preconceived notions and try to get a good feel for the residents, such as if they seemed interested in speaking with you. Programs change year-to-year so a bad program may be great by the time you apply
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